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    SnipeZilla -Sz- Snipin's a good job, mate!
    SnipeZilla -Sz- You call that snipin'?

  • tfCounter-Strike Source

    SnipeZilla -Sz- Point And Click Adventure
    SnipeZilla -Sz- [Bots] Point And Click Adventure

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    SnipeZilla -Sz- HLstatsZ Competitive Defusal
    SnipeZilla -Sz- HLstatsZ Deathmatch AWP

Unban request

So why did he not make a single objection to the ban reason. If I saw a player who was spinbotting and he was banned for scripts I would surely question it. Especially if he wasn't spinbotting at all ie using +left and cl_yawspeed 1000000. If he was spinbotting I'd move on and play, instead of flexing. This has the makings of a cover-up, and no one can tell the truth right now, because it's hidden underneath vague and frankly [imho] poor adminship. I've seen this happen before and I tell you I'm not going to be covered up in a hole I can't get out of.

shortydog said:
No, I never said aimbot specifically. I said S.W. agreed with the ban.
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Also you mention that he agreed with it, that implies the reason was correct, unless Mr Anderson can say otherwise, but [he] had a long time to ban me, and I don't think he was rushing. Sure the game would end, but at the end of the day, he had a demo of many shots and would have more when the map changed and I would continue playing.

I would also like to remention that the ban reason also shouldn't be wallhack because I clearly don't as seen in the demo. So which reason should I appeal now? Even I'm confused.
 
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There is no cover up. S.W. is not even an admin, so that's a mute point now. Mr Anderson went into to spec, and from what he deducted from HIS spec'ing, he concluded that something wasn't right, and made an administrative decision, once again, based on what he viewed, and banned you.
 
So the ban was for aimbotting and should stay that way? Because I just proved that I was 100% not aimbotting, yet you agree with it? What about the old player SW's influence you were talking about in discord? What about the scripts, just give an honest reason instead of hiding it because I was unfairly banned and you know it.
 
If Mr Anderson banned you for scripting, it's not unfair. He already explained that the timing from which he was banning you, made him mistakenly choose "aimbot" instead of "scripting".
 
As I said, afaik scripting is not a bannable offense on the server which I found out in discord, unless you can prove to me otherwise and prove beyond a doubt to other admins that the scripts I was using was the reason I was banned.
 
Heck, I've even been "influenced" by non admins. If someone says that a player is hacking, me as an admin, have a duty to at least investigate it.
 
It's also worth mentioning that VJ, the admin who previously banned me, banned me for wallhack, I think you should ask him if I was going to be banned for another "changed" reason after the fact, since he watched my gameplay a lot longer than Mr_Anderson did.
 
If anyone can use scripts why should I specifically be banned? I've seen loads of people, mentioned as the "majority of players on snipezilla" by husky, using the crouch-jump "script". If scripting was a ban rule before the time I was banned, I would be fine with the ban. I don't know why you're telling me I'm banned for scripting now. In fact no one can tell now because steam chats would have been cleared(not sure if "scripting" was specifically mentioned in enemy team chat) and no current evidence can prove I was banned for scripting.
 
If your scripting obscures the game enough to not even play back your aiming correctly, or even at all, that should be a problem in my opinion.
 
Slick W. said:
If your scripting obscures the game enough to not even play back your aiming correctly, or even at all, that should be a problem in my opinion.
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You might want to reverse a few posts, because I explained how to see my aim as clear as day in the demo. I want to reiterate that you haven't given this any full thought whatsoever. Plus, crouching is in the game, are you going to be like this against everyone who jitters on your screen?

By the way, after every shot I jump straight up, not strafing. The only reason they couldn't hit me is because of the crouch jitter. This isn't about scripting in the first place, it's just a vent against hard to hit players. If I didn't crouch jitter, it would be so easy to predict my movement since its only up or down. It still is with the crouching between scopes. I doubt you have had much training against the crouch jitterers.
 
Before I add any personal assessments of the issue, I'm going to have to ask you to unprivatize your account for a short period of time.
And, if applicable, provide steam ID links to all other alts/mains belonging to you.
As of now, your account looks like a one-off account. And it being set to private to everybody (including friends) is a bit suspicious.
 
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The analogy to court system doesn't work here. This isn't a court. If you are found cheating then you are banned. You used additional code, by your own admission, that isn't part of the TF2 program to assist in game play. That is cheating by definition. Your action is toxic to the community.
 
scripting is currently NOT a bannable offence, but when someone is abusing the scripting system so hard that it creates problems this could be an issue. the crouch jump scripts are basically useless after the patch jumping scope cancel was corrected.
 
I have my own demo of Vektor scripting. The script is in full effect still even after patch changes from the past. You can immediately jump after shooting faster than what a humans actions can do. Not to mention its 100% with a script whereas a human may forget to jump after shooting or jump slower or faster than they did before.

I posted a script thread in admin section the other day so that it can be talked about because this hasn't come up before.
 
(EC) ^Σ§Ƈ^ mr_anderson said:
The analogy to court system doesn't work here. This isn't a court. If you are found cheating then you are banned. You used additional code, by your own admission, that isn't part of the TF2 program to assist in game play. That is cheating by definition. Your action is toxic to the community.
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The code I used exists to all players since you can type the commands in console, it uses absolutely no third party code or "code injection" like you suggest. It's completely legal and you can't get a VAC ban for using some cvars so it isn't cheating, just scripting/using ingame cvars. If it's so toxic why does it exist in the game?

DrunkDoc said:
scripting is currently NOT a bannable offence, but when someone is abusing the scripting system so hard that it creates problems this could be an issue. the crouch jump scripts are basically useless after the patch jumping scope cancel was corrected.
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If scripting isn't a bannable offense, why was I banned, and why am I still banned?
Mixup said:
I have my own demo of Vektor scripting. The script is in full effect still even after patch changes from the past. You can immediately jump after shooting faster than what a humans actions can do. Not to mention its 100% with a script whereas a human may forget to jump after shooting or jump slower or faster than they did before.

I posted a script thread in admin section the other day so that it can be talked about because this hasn't come up before.
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I still have to press a my mouse5 button to initiate the binds, it uses crouch and jump functions so if I do miss the button then it all goes to shit anyway. Once I do press the button at the correct timing, which is tick by tick, then it's 100% consistent but I've been training my timing so I can do it about 90% of the time.
 
You are currently banned still while we discuss this issue thanks to you bringing it up and your unbearable attitude is not helping your case, you will stop talking if you do know what is good for you. We are waiting for a few more opinions from people before proceeding. Once we have decided you will be immediately notified our decision and this ban will be corrected. Do not mouth off to me or another admin again on this forum, server or otherwise.
 
Again your logic is flawed. I didn't say scripting as a whole is bad or toxic. I said your action, using script to aid you in game play to gain advantage to others is toxic. Just because something exists, in this case some cvars, commands, scripts, doesn't mean you can abuse it. Which is the whole reason every server has admins to keep things under control. Without them, people will abuse whatever they are given and ruins it for everyone else.
 
Script are not cheating since it's source itself.
No more perma-ban! Only hackers get permanent ban on Sz.
Good news is, you now have 12 months to improve your game without this silly script! See ya later!:)
 
cedde said:
Script are not cheating since it's source itself.
No more perma-ban! Only hackers get permanent ban on Sz.
Good news is, you now have 12 months to improve your game without this silly script! See ya later!:)
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Thank you so much cedde I'll see you around.:cool:
 
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